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Post by daren007 on Aug 25, 2014 16:46:31 GMT -6
I keep seeing (starts on spray). I have to wonder if this means using starting fluids such as Either. I kept thinking this cannot be good so I looked it up. As it turns out it is not good for a two stroke engine. Any thoughts. dc
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Post by ruppluver on Aug 25, 2014 17:00:04 GMT -6
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Post by lemans1955 on Aug 25, 2014 19:22:08 GMT -6
I always use a zep spray bottle with 105 race gas and 2 stroke oil in it. get the job done every time and I know its getting lubrication.
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Post by Hoots on Aug 27, 2014 8:58:25 GMT -6
Use ether all the time. One of my mod stock race sleds has this stupid problem that I can't track dwn. Starts pretty good on warm up stand, bring her up to temp. then we have to bring it up to line not running. When restart at line, one cyl. drops out and will be flooded in seconds if I'm not super quick with a shot of ether. Hood is pinned down and don't have time to pin and unpin, so I just shoot alittle ether fog, thru foot well on that side and she picks up that cyl. immediately. Gets alittle frantic with 3 other sleds at the line and a flag guy pointing at you LOL!
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Post by ruppluver on Aug 27, 2014 9:31:11 GMT -6
I've used it for 7 years!! I need an advantage when it comes to starting my sleds,this is it.I've got less strength in my arms,than I used to have. I lost the rotator cuff in my right arm,& have to use my less strength left arm to start them.I can only pull a few times before I tire out. Soooo,the use of starting fluid does the trick,just a light fog & bingo.If you don't have to use,you probably shouldn't,I've had no problems using it. I was using carb cleaner,but it wasn't as volitole as starting fluid. I used to use a shot of 50:1 pre-mix,but had trouble starting them. Like they say,"the rest is history".
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Post by snosnake on Aug 27, 2014 12:37:17 GMT -6
I use a Mustard bottle with pre mix in it, or spray fogging oil or WD 40. One of these days your going to have a big ball of fire under the hood using ether. Kohler motors don't like ether.
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Post by drrupp on Aug 27, 2014 13:01:05 GMT -6
I think the newer stuff has a lubricant in it. I use it all the time one quick spray saves a lot of pulling.
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Post by magnumed on Aug 27, 2014 13:26:27 GMT -6
I think the newer stuff has a lubricant in it. I use it all the time one quick spray saves a lot of pulling. Dan. Its manditory on the 800 Hirth to give it a shot....lol
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Post by drrupp on Aug 27, 2014 15:34:14 GMT -6
Ha absolutely.
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Post by Hoots on Aug 28, 2014 16:30:39 GMT -6
I use a Mustard bottle with pre mix in it, or spray fogging oil or WD 40. One of these days your going to have a big ball of fire under the hood using ether. Kohler motors don't like ether. Ya, I have my ketchup bottles with premix too for when I can get a hood open or off easy. Ether works great in moderation, way better than carb cleaner.
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Post by Ruppsforever on Aug 28, 2014 16:36:11 GMT -6
This topic is confusing me. Every time I've ever tried ether to start a sled failed !! The only thing that it works on for me is to get my snow blower going the first time each year. Works great on that. What am I missing ??
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Post by magnesium on Aug 28, 2014 17:24:59 GMT -6
Ether is for diesels,and diesel mechanics warn you to use it lightly. If you have a weak ignition, ether won't solve that. Ether WILL help if your carbs aren't supplying enough gasoline. If you've flooded the motor, ether won't solve that,either.
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Post by snosnake on Aug 28, 2014 17:45:41 GMT -6
Ether will dry rings, cylinder walls and bearings. Sure it isn't bothering it now but give it time. Fogging oil or WD 40 if you have to use a spray can is the only way to go. Ether is very hard on engines.
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Post by kluth on Aug 29, 2014 12:48:50 GMT -6
I ran a 340 Tohatsu motor on ether one day and then let it sit for about a week. The rings rusted slightly and froze to the cylinders. I was able to break it free with no ill effects. Now, if I use the ether at all, I always fog it with some oil afterward. Mostly, I use a fuel/oil spray mix.
Kirk
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Post by ruppluver on Aug 29, 2014 18:55:34 GMT -6
When I put together my 1st Sprint 29,I bought a $25 Sachs 290.I've been running that engine for 5 years,compression was about 110 when I put it in,it is about 110 now.I've seen NO ill effects from ether in my engines.I must be living right. The TR340 that went down,due to seal,looked great inside,the whole engine was completely taken apart & checked.That engine had seen ether also.Say what you want about ether,it's not everyones cup of tea.
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Post by snosnake on Aug 29, 2014 19:13:08 GMT -6
When I put together my 1st Sprint 29,I bought a $25 Sachs 290.I've been running that engine for 5 years,compression was about 110 when I put it in,it is about 110 now.I've seen NO ill effects from ether in my engines.I must be living right. The TR340 that went down,due to seal,looked great inside,the whole engine was completely taken apart & checked.That engine had seen ether also.Say what you want about ether,it's not everyones cup of tea. Like I said ether dry's everything out even rubber. Some people get away with putting 12K mikes on before changing oil and have no problems. I don't think I want to try it.
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Post by magnesium on Aug 29, 2014 20:13:49 GMT -6
Ether would be a great degreaser except it flashes off too quickly. I'm sure it will strip lubrication from rings and bearings....no big deal IF the oil is replaced.It will attack rubber,plastic,anything organic.I use it to start a cold tractor or re-bead truck tires. Maybe Eddie knows that trick.
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Post by snosnake on Aug 29, 2014 21:10:51 GMT -6
It sure makes that tire jump but it works.
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Post by sprint34 on Aug 29, 2014 21:22:31 GMT -6
don,t use ether us carb or brake cleaner
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Post by BeatUpRupp on Sept 13, 2014 6:58:30 GMT -6
i have premix in a spray bottle. works like a charm. if i put in a primer bulb i probably wouldn't need it at all.
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