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Post by magnesium on Feb 25, 2015 12:20:04 GMT -6
I have a pair of lower plastic panels that were painted around 1990. They seem to be flexible,not brittle. Anyone one else run into this?
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Post by 74nitro2 on Feb 25, 2015 12:53:55 GMT -6
Do you think the paint preserved them?? I have some that would break if you looked at them, however I have also found some that are flexible.
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Post by magnesium on Feb 25, 2015 13:23:58 GMT -6
I wish I knew what kind of paint was used. Maybe time to experiment on some broken panels to see if something can bring the plastic "back". If you have some that are still flexible without paint, the difference may be careful storage versus stuff that was outside in the sun.
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Post by lemans1955 on Feb 25, 2015 13:47:28 GMT -6
I've seen black molded rubber/plastic lower panels that were flexible. They were on a real rough 71 magnum. Don't know where they came from.
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Post by magnesium on Feb 25, 2015 14:17:22 GMT -6
I've seen black molded rubber/plastic lower panels that were flexible. They were on a real rough 71 magnum. Don't know where they came from. The panels I have were from a 71 Magnum also. One was repaired. It's a long shot but maybe the plastic from 71 is different than 72 or 73?
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Post by krazy on Feb 25, 2015 14:58:06 GMT -6
I saw some molded rubber upper panels for the three piece hoods once. You could bend them like a pretzel and all that would crack was the paint! That was about 10 years ago, guy wouldn't sell them. Don't know why, he was a Sno Jet guy. Joe
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Post by lemans1955 on Feb 25, 2015 15:22:15 GMT -6
The ones I saw had the same molding marks and lines as a stock red hard plastic panel. They looked like stock panels only black and flexible.
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Post by racingelvis on Feb 25, 2015 17:33:35 GMT -6
mark, just curious,....how where your panels stored?? Jim binkley told me when the panels where brand new, never seen the cold they where flexible as could be and did not break, but once they where put in the cold they became brittle as could be. just a thought,......
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Post by magnesium on Feb 25, 2015 17:52:59 GMT -6
That was the bad news back then. Rupp promoted this plastic (thermoplastic?) as flexible and scratches didn't matter cause it was red all the way through. We found out it wasn't so tough in the cold. That kinda sucks on a snowmobile. I know who owned the 800 that these panels were on but not how the sled was stored. My brother chased it down in the late 80's and sold it to me after it was painted.
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Post by lemans1955 on Feb 25, 2015 18:28:28 GMT -6
Judging by the shape this 71 mag was in I figure it was probably outside for 20 years before we found it.
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Post by magnesium on Feb 25, 2015 19:22:43 GMT -6
mark, just curious,....how where your panels stored?? Jim binkley told me when the panels where brand new, never seen the cold they where flexible as could be and did not break, but once they where put in the cold they became brittle as could be. just a thought,...... Coincidence, but the Titanic was unsinkable, except in the cold.
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Post by Ruppsup on Feb 25, 2015 19:52:06 GMT -6
I have the super flexible Black lower panels from a 71 Magnum that Lemans is talking about. They are very cool and no, I won't sell them. They are a rubber like material, black all the way through. I've seen the same material used on belly pans of some slightly newer sleds. Someone needs to make these, but in red. I will try to get some pictures posted.
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Post by bankRUPPt on Feb 25, 2015 20:03:15 GMT -6
The 03 firecat with red skis had them recalled because the red plastic was susceptible to uv damage and the skis could break. At work we use red plastic tile connectors. If they sit in the sun for a summer you can crush them by hand. The black ones are fine even after years in the sun.
If the painted ones are fine, wonder if its because they were protected from uv rays?
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Post by magnesium on Feb 26, 2015 0:07:54 GMT -6
The 03 firecat with red skis had them recalled because the red plastic was susceptible to uv damage and the skis could break. At work we use red plastic tile connectors. If they sit in the sun for a summer you can crush them by hand. The black ones are fine even after years in the sun. If the painted ones are fine, wonder if its because they were protected from uv rays? The painted panels have been inside for 25 years.So have the unpainted panels. Judging from my Massey farm equipment Red paint suffers the worst in the sun
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Post by 74nitro2 on Feb 26, 2015 7:50:41 GMT -6
I believe the color had a lot to do with the defective panels. They probably used PVC back then and put a bunch of additives for heat(not cold) and UV resistance. Low density polyethylene was not introduced until 78', high density was after that.
The batches can vary quite a bit. So,, sometime you can end up with a panel that is fairly flexible.
SeacoastRupp told me that back in the 70's when he worked at Cheever's in Northwood, NH. The customers would drop brand new sleds off on Sunday so they could replace the broken panels, and have it ready for pick up on Friday, then again on Sunday they would do the same thing.
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Post by bankRUPPt on Feb 26, 2015 12:13:10 GMT -6
I think everything associated with a Massey suffers.....
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Post by magnesium on Feb 26, 2015 16:13:29 GMT -6
I think everything associated with a Massey suffers..... If I filled my yard with Green tractors, I couldn't afford the red sleds.
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Post by Ruppsforever on Feb 26, 2015 17:27:27 GMT -6
I think everything associated with a Massey suffers..... If I filled my yard with Green tractors, I couldn't afford the red sleds. Thank god you bought that Massey Aye ??
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Post by magnesium on Feb 26, 2015 17:41:11 GMT -6
We run what our Daddy's run. It's all good.
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Post by Ruppsup on Mar 5, 2015 17:11:57 GMT -6
Check out these plastic or rubber lower panels. They came on a 71 Magnum I pulled out of a junk yard. They appear to have been cloned exactly from original plastic panels. You can bend them up and they just pop back. Attachment DeletedAttachment Deleted
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