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Post by lemans1955 on Apr 7, 2015 12:46:53 GMT -6
Well I know this is not really a Rupp topic, well not entirely. Regardless I find this absolutely awesome that somebody finally found one of these. The holy grail of vintage racing snowmobiles! Please feel free to discuss.
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Post by lemans1955 on Apr 7, 2015 12:47:43 GMT -6
Hey rick my phone really messed up that post, think you could delete the other 2? Thanks!
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Post by lemans1955 on Apr 7, 2015 12:49:14 GMT -6
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Post by magnumed on Apr 7, 2015 13:01:35 GMT -6
I seen that. Awesome find. Can't dispute that one. I hope it is in good hands.
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Post by lemans1955 on Apr 7, 2015 18:33:52 GMT -6
Now stories are coming out that there is a second, complete one in the same location. After all these years why now? And why did someone decide to keep them a secret for so long? It is pretty neat though. Are you sure it was an Allouette twin track your buddy had? There was supposed to be only 4 made total and only one 650.
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Post by lemans1955 on Apr 8, 2015 10:17:26 GMT -6
That is pretty cool, wonder if one of these is his old sled.
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Post by bankRUPPt on Apr 9, 2015 13:47:39 GMT -6
No such luck. Tracked him down and talked for a while. We talked about Lee's Speedway and the 650 Kohler. Of course the Allouette twin had a Sachs motor, but that doesn't mean much. I asked him about his twin tracker. Oh yes he had one, but it wasnt an Allouette. It was a Raider. He said he did lake race a Rupp at one time. Said he had a sled with the 650 Kohler, just wasnt the twin track.
Neat stories, sounds like you guys had a lot of fun. No Allouette Sno Pro, though.
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Post by mcruppin on Apr 10, 2015 7:17:41 GMT -6
And that is how it all starts!
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Post by rupper on Apr 11, 2015 19:08:18 GMT -6
I believe one of the four Alouette twin trackers used a 650 Kohler based on the telephone interview as Jacques talks about the Kohler and Sach motors being down on horsepower compared to the Arctic and Bombardier sleds. I had always thought it was a Sach triple myself. Listen to jacques' interview and draw your own conclusion though....he also went on to talk about the sleds weighing too much and disengaging the inside track going through the corners...if you have an hour and a half to spare there are some interesting perspectives on those sleds. I seen these sleds race at Peterborough and cornering of that sled was unbelievable....
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Post by magnesium on Apr 12, 2015 13:46:21 GMT -6
Last off the starting line but could gain 2 or 3 positions in the corners per lap. Like a slot car once it got going.
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Post by lemans1955 on Apr 12, 2015 16:40:37 GMT -6
Very cool stories, I would have loved to see them run back in the day. I feel as though I was born in the wrong decade.
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Post by magnesium on Apr 12, 2015 17:11:00 GMT -6
Truth is I didn't appreciate what I saw at the time. I went to cheer for the Rupp's. Villeneuve wasn't well known outside of sled racing. His twin tracker had issues like belts and engine cooling. He and his brother were really privateers-for-hire. When he got a seat at Ferrari, I was happy that a sledhead made the grade.I believe that his Ferrari contract specifically forbade snowmobile racing. Decades later, Finn Kimi Raikonen had the same clause in his Ferrari contract, so he raced snocross under an alias.
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Post by lemans1955 on Apr 13, 2015 3:55:18 GMT -6
I didn't know kimi raced sleds, that's interesting.
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Post by magnesium on Apr 13, 2015 6:22:01 GMT -6
I didn't know kimi raced sleds, that's interesting. That story got out a few years ago during his first contract with Ferrari. It may have been a one time thing for fun. F1 drivers usually drive Karts for fun,not sleds.
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Post by 320 on Apr 13, 2015 7:46:53 GMT -6
Kimi also raced mx. Has his own mxgp team as well.
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Post by racingelvis on Apr 13, 2015 8:17:53 GMT -6
wasn't it in 81 or 82 gilles was supposed to race the new moto-ski twin track and his indy ride found out and told him he couldn't because it was to dangerous, sadly that summer he was killed in his indy car wreck. that was a nasty crash.
mark, you were at the karawatha kup in those years, that had to be an outstanding race looks like form the video's i have seen. gene won there in "73 on his rupp magnum i think. what was there for rupp in 74? any mod sleds?
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Post by magnesium on Apr 13, 2015 9:13:52 GMT -6
I fell asleep last night trying to remember that 74 race at Peterborough and all I can think of was the SnoPro's. We stood along the back straight, couldn't get near the start-finish or the pits.If I have any pictures, they're probably just the negatives.I'll have a look some rainy day. I did read the story about the MotoSki twin track. His fatal F1 crash was in Belgium. He flew his own helicopter to that race Buzzed the pits for fun.
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Post by magnesium on Apr 13, 2015 10:04:11 GMT -6
I thought those pictures would be needles in a haystack, but I found them. They're negatives. I'll take them into town to get digitized. How about Villeneuve and Gene Bloom, side by side, coming out of turn two?
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Post by lemans1955 on Apr 13, 2015 11:02:38 GMT -6
Your right, Gilles was killed in qualifying for the 1982 Belgian GP at Zolder. Hell of a shunt he had, a basic racing incident, another driver Jochen Mass moved to the right to let Gilles pass as he was on a fast lap, Gilles incorrectly thought Mass was going to move left. They touched wheels and Gilles car got airborne. When it came down in the soft dirt on the side of the track it ripped the whole front of the car off from cockpit to front wing, his seat belt broke off and he was tossed across the track into the catch fencing.
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Post by magnesium on Apr 13, 2015 11:32:00 GMT -6
That was hard to take. I felt better when his son won the Indy 500 then the World Driving Championship two years after that. Good on Jocko for keeping those Alouette twin trackers in Quebec.
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