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Post by snikr on Jan 4, 2009 16:32:44 GMT -6
After reading all the comments on this thread I must say that for the most part not a lot of these drag sleds are "stock". Don't shot me, it's just my opinion. Most of the boys around here have a "sled" setup JUST for drag racing. They don't trail ride them. Not that it's a bad thing, just the way I see it. If someone brought a stock sled to these races he'd more than likely get his butt handed to him 90% of the time. Once and a while he MIGHT win, but then again even a blind dog can find a bone. YMMV Tom
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Post by onlyhere4themoney on Jan 4, 2009 17:04:00 GMT -6
After reading all the comments on this thread I must say that for the most part not a lot of these drag sleds are "stock". Don't shot me, it's just my opinion. Most of the boys around here have a "sled" setup JUST for drag racing. They don't trail ride them. Not that it's a bad thing, just the way I see it. If someone brought a stock sled to these races he'd more than likely get his butt handed to him 90% of the time. Once and a while he MIGHT win, but then again even a blind dog can find a bone. YMMV Tom You can and most do have a stock sled set up for drag racing and do not trail ride it. I know Dale, Paul, Dan and a few others might take offense to being call cheaters and these are the guys to beat in the classes they run in. The fact is a stock 76 Green dripper is not a good drag sled it is to slow. If the truth hurts I am sorry but that is just the way it is. |
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Post by onlyhere4themoney on Jan 4, 2009 19:11:02 GMT -6
Here is one of my sleds I built from the ground up. My son runs it for me we have never taken first with it but have been in the to 3 places evey time we have raced it. now true i don't call myself a racer but I have had some fast sleds that I have built or put together. Dan's sled is legal in the stock class so it is stock as far as that goes. Dale's sled is bone stock right down to the air box. I have yet to see any stock 76 Nitro or Magnum win in it's class yet. Dale Sloper has been trying to get his 76 Magnum to be competative for at least 3 years and has yet to do so.  |
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Post by onlyhere4themoney on Jan 4, 2009 19:14:22 GMT -6
Here are a few other sleds I have built.   armchair philosepher I think not |
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Post by Ruppsforever on Jan 4, 2009 20:05:34 GMT -6
Gee this should get moved to The Red Zone !!!
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Post by onlyhere4themoney on Jan 4, 2009 20:05:56 GMT -6
The Centurion is now in Illinois. I did not build the Centurion it was built by the Polaris dealership and a guy from Rochester Mn.
When I got it it was missing both clutches and carbs I had to rebuild the motor re clutch it and put new carbs on it.
The Centurion was a PRO stock sled not stock.
The 73 nitro blew up a Waconia last year making a few test runs.
I got rid of the sled and now have a 72 Nitro for drag racing.
I do not have anything to do with racing any more and my son does not want to stick around and race on Sunday as he has to be at work early Monday Mornning.
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Post by 440magnum on Jan 4, 2009 20:25:08 GMT -6
Rick, I was speaking about the quote that was noted in my original post.
Tracy's Magnum is just as stock as Sperry's 73 Magnum, but no one bats an eyelash of it being stock or mod - it's a Rupp and is what matters and makes it all the better.
The debate may be fun, but competitive or not, let's give the guys some credit and encouragement to those who are trying or wanting to try. I don't care if it's a Magnum or a Yankee. If you're out there testing and trying to get it done, more power to ya. We can sit back and bitch about how slow they are or help out the guys that are trying to do what apparently is the impossible. If you win, it'll be all the greater - trust me.
I like them all (I do own Twisters, Doo's and Rupps), but I love the Rupps.
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Post by wigman25 on Jan 4, 2009 20:25:30 GMT -6
Nice group of sleds you put together there. So you have never built a liquid for the drags or the lakes??? Huh. That figures.  |
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Post by nitrofa340 on Jan 4, 2009 20:42:17 GMT -6
After reading all the comments on this thread I must say that for the most part not a lot of these drag sleds are "stock". Don't shot me, it's just my opinion. Most of the boys around here have a "sled" setup JUST for drag racing. They don't trail ride them. Not that it's a bad thing, just the way I see it. If someone brought a stock sled to these races he'd more than likely get his butt handed to him 90% of the time. Once and a while he MIGHT win, but then again even a blind dog can find a bone. YMMV Tom Tuning the sled for better performance via such things as clutch weights & spring changes, gearing, studding, carb calibrations,secondary spring & helix, track tension, engagement speed and ignition timing are considered ADJUSTMENTS and ARE allowed in stock class racing. Changes to the engine such as porting, cutting the heads, after market or incorrect pipes, aftermarket tracks, aftermarket light weight parts, aftermarket lightweight skis are considered MODIFACTIONS and are NOT allowed in stock class racing. |
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Post by onlyhere4themoney on Jan 4, 2009 20:46:28 GMT -6
All of these sleds have there place. I guess I thoght this post was about stock Green Drippers drag racing.
Sure the Green Dripper has a good top end but it just was not built to go drag racing. The 76 magnum was made to turn left and do belive they would work good circle racing.
Hey guys sorry if I tell the way I think is but thats how I am and some of you are just going to have to get used to it.
If I feel I am being attacked I will defend myself and some times I am not very nice about it.
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Post by nitrofa340 on Jan 4, 2009 20:59:44 GMT -6
i have read the past posts too dan's nitro isnt stock either it has a newer clutch and electronic ignition (true hurts dont it) and as far as the fa nitro well those were SLOW WHEN STOCK and UNTOUCHED. Changing/updating the ignition and installing a hex clutch are allowed under the rules we currently race under. Dan did nothing wrong. Why hinder yourself with an old kidney weight clutch if you can legally upgrade to the hex? As for the F/As,......the crappy kidney weight clutch combined with no race support from rupp was the reason they didnt fare well back in '75. While the hex clutch was a recommended option/upgrade, all they gave you was a set of blank ramps and no instructions. The only changes to my sleds are the hex clutches. I think they run ok. |
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Post by Ruppsforever on Jan 4, 2009 21:07:56 GMT -6
Dale you should give yourself more credit !!!!! Hey you forgot to mention you did the .... TAKE THE HAMMER TO THE LEFT PIPE UPGRADE !!!!!!! Now that I think made it so fast !!!
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Post by bankRUPPt on Jan 4, 2009 21:23:35 GMT -6
I guess I thoght this post was about stock Green Drippers drag racing. It was, it actually was a ridiculous thought of a 250 being able to beat a 440! And it won't, it might be close for a very short distance. And you couldn't get more than 80 mph out of a stock one of them with a stiff tail wind and perfect ice. Wig You know, that's true. They were built to get to the corner and turn left. And then get down the straight as fast as anything else. We all know the history, they got down the straights faster than anything else! I don't think anybody will argue that the Rupps top speed wasn't right on par with all the other muscle sleds, it was right there in the 80 mph range as well. |
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Post by wigman25 on Jan 4, 2009 21:39:07 GMT -6
Here we go again - that is BS and you know it. Quit the crap.
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Post by magnumforce on Jan 4, 2009 22:10:32 GMT -6
Gee this should get moved to The Red Zone !!! Good idea Josh. What do you guys think? This is remnants of the good ol' days isn't it. |
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Post by bankRUPPt on Jan 4, 2009 22:48:53 GMT -6
Move it, delete it...whatever! I thought we were going to have an option for the author to delete or lock a topic? I doesn't show up for me.
Almost 900 views on this thread...one of the greats!!!
It's lookin' like we have to have a good old fashion radar run in the near future. I'm gonna start workin' on the Z!
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Post by Ruppsforever on Jan 4, 2009 23:01:17 GMT -6
Don't Delete it !!! Theres some great information here !!!
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Post by magnumforce on Jan 5, 2009 9:35:42 GMT -6
Ok it's moved. I thought you could all remove your thread I never heard anything that it couldn't be. Tomorrow on, "As the track turns".... Cats will be coming out of the woodworks as the Rupp, Merc, and Doo's chapter comes to an end... ;D ;D ;D  |
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Post by nitrofa340 on Jan 5, 2009 10:36:52 GMT -6
and as far as the fa nitro well those were SLOW WHEN STOCK and UNTOUCHED. I believe Joe Marshall won an ISR World Series "B" stock title back in the 1980's on a F/A 440. To my knowledge, no liquid Rupp stocker has ever won a "B" stock title. I would like to see it happen,....but I just dont believe it is possible. My personal goals are to get my 440 Magnum to run right between my 440 F/A and my 340 F/A. I DO believe this is possible, as I am getting close. Another thing some of you guys apparently dont know about Rick, is he actually DOES WANT TO SEE a stock "green dripper" run good at a major race. He would like nothing better then to eat his own words. He just likes to point out it just hasnt happened over 33 years,....and it probabley never will. Seems to really "get you guys worked up". |
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Post by redleader on Jan 5, 2009 10:37:55 GMT -6
I see some snow on the skis.... How does it run? Those pipes are simalar to 73 mag pipes....Hmm!
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