71 Rupp Magnum

[abare12]

Here's what the Rupp Registry number on this board tell me. My Magnum serial number is 121676. The registry of other members sleds are like this 1971 Magnums are in the 121000 range, 71 800 641274, sprint 44 are 11000, and 1972 Yankee are 100000 to 101000. My magnum frame is right on the money. Check it your self. As I say I have seen this sled starting on the dealer floor when I was 16/17 years old in Serverance NY, Whittys Rupp sales, bought by Rod Moore of Ticonderoga, NY where I grew up, as his rider for years, race by rods team until he stopped racing in early 90's sold to Jack Kimball of Witherbee, NY, where his daughter put it on craigslist as a misspelled RYPP magnum, where I bought it. You bought yours off E-bay and don't know the history of the sled, if not for the serial number, you maybe the one without a Magnum!

[magnesium]

My 600 is #124923. My 800 is #120632 and my 440 is #122539. Quite a range of numbers, I don't think everything in between would have been Magnums.

[abare12]

I think the numbers are proving right. Unless I have Mickey Rupp standing right here telling me how it worked, or we get some one who knows the numbers this is the way it looks to me. You said yourself that a 71 Magnum frame is different than a Yankee, Then It only makes sense to me that when the Rupp factory tooled up for a frame build, they would build thousands of the same frame before they retool the line for the next run, agreed? Thus the running serial numbers, factory numbers serve a purpose coming down the line counter. These are all the 120000 numbers, I see at least 1000 frames in between the numbers on our sleds. Do you think Rupp made 1000 Magnums in W/T in 71 of all c.c.'s? I think its more than possible. I believe we both have true 71 W/T Magnums

[magnesium]

Rupp pulled tunnels as they needed them for Magnums, serial numbers remained sequential regardless of the model.

[abare12]

Everybody here knows that's not how a production line works, I used written facts and figures to explain issues that anyone can look up. You don't really know this stuff you just keep changing the story to fit your needs. Now everybody on the board knows! Its a pointless conversation with you and I really don't care what you say! Go bullshit somebody else, I'm done with you.

[magnesium]

Look at the three numbers I listed, the range is 4291.(124923 minus 120632) All three are wide tunnels. Rupp produced maybe 50 600 Magnums, so that leaves over 4000 other 1971 Magnums, according to your story. It has been discussed here many times on this board, production numbers. If it was as simple as collecting serial numbers we'd know, but Rupp didn't build them that way.

[krazy]

My 71 800 serial# was 118366 and I had the shipping documents to prove it. That sled now belongs to Billy Burns along with all the paperwork for it. Joe

Just saying

[abare12]

Here's more number facts: 1972 Snow Goer Trade Magazine, Production / Inventory. Rupp 1970/1971 27,200 1971/1972 29,000 and there would be no way 4000 of these could have ever been Magnums? You weren't standing on the factory floor back in 71, your younger than I am so I know you weren't so unless some one that was there or in charge of production tells me different, all production lines run the same. Now bullshit me again and tell me Snow Goer Trade Magazine doesn't know what its talking about but you do!

[magnesium]

Taking Joe's #118366 into account, the range from #118366 to my #124923 becomes 6557 sleds. Does anyone have a 71 Magnum with a serial number higher than #124923? I ask because mine was never sold,it was Rupp's demonstrator that made a tour of dealerships before it ended up at the distributor in Toronto. It became a parts donor and lost the 600 motor,pipes,base plate,etc. I'm thinking that it may have been one of the last ones produced.

[magnumal]

Dec 17, 2013 8:40:40 GMT -6 abare12 said:

If Magnesium bought two sleds on E-bay, then he only paid $500 for the Magnum?. Because you have the wrong motor,(I've got the correct Magnum motor for mine) and it must be junk or you would post a pic of your great sled! No wonder the seller was happy to see it go, laughing all the way to the bank! All you got was a parts sled. I could have used the parts for what I'm missing,(but I just bought them now) in your own words that would be a fair deal"(for me)" not so much for you! You chewed on my sled and yours isn't any better.
And Magnumal, you want to call me a jerk for selling a sled? Why don't you crawl back into that beer can and give us another great Rustolium paint job! That's the worst paint I've ever seen, and you post it? By the way, without the correct motor on your Magnum, you too have nothing but a parts sled. I figured if I stopped posting everybody on the board would get a break and it would drop, but this must have really bothered you two. You guys are easy!!! Lets see the mentality if you post, I really don't care what you think, why would I?

I never said it was a good paint job, didn't know we could only post good stuff ? I just asked you a question and you didn't give me an answer that is why your a jerk !

[snosnake]

rupprat you might want to start another post for you 71 SR.

This post might not last much longer.

argue all you guy's want but no more name calling.

Thanks snosnake

[abare12]

Thanks Rick, I agree this is a go nowhere post. I'm done

[bankRUPPt]

Still good info can come from a thread like this. Potential buyers can scrutinize a sled for sale. The serial number debate is good stuff. I'd like to find a WT non-magnum chassis with the serial number right smack dab in the middle of these Magnum numbers. That would make it interesting!

[magnesium]

The latest in car production is the "flex line",various models being built by the same people on the same line
. Mickey was way ahead of his time, but we've known that all along.

[kronnikracing]

Glad to see your still keeping tabs on the board Joe!

[fasttimes]

Just reading this post. Magnesium didn't you buy a 73 magnum for $10,000 with very few correct parts. Just depends what you are looking for.

[magnesium]

Dec 18, 2013 11:25:38 GMT -6 fasttimes said:

Just reading this post. Magnesium didn't you buy a 73 magnum for $10,000 with very few correct parts. Just depends what you are looking for.

The most I've paid for a Rupp was for a 72 650 Nitro which was a model Rupp never built. I also paid a lot for Jay Sperry's 73 Magnum-based oval sled, which I fired up last night. Only the tunnel and most of the motor are Rupp, rest is either Polaris or aftermarket. How's that for full disclosure? Then again, I'm not offering them for sale.

[kronnikracing]

And that is one bad a$$ sled at that!! Built by one of the best rupp builders around. There is nothing on that sled that second best. Totatlly different comparing these two sleds on original parts.

[fasttimes]

Did Jay tell you they were not correct magnum parts our did you just know.

[kronnikracing]

Look at the sled. Its pretty evident. But magnesium will know best.