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Post by kronnikracing on Apr 16, 2015 11:50:44 GMT -6
Im not discrediting your sled in the least, hell read the thread about your sled i did nothing but praise that thing. Im just wondering what you had to piece together thru photos to complete the sled. Rupp had magnesium slide rails, they had the magnesium chain cases and covers and im pretty sure they had suspension parts that were magnesium also. Are all of the 3d parts one off pieces or did they pull SOME parts from the shelf to use for the builds? This is what im getting at ed, not ripping on you. Open mouth and insert chill pill man. Preferalby wash down with a Busch Light
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Post by magnumed on Apr 16, 2015 12:06:51 GMT -6
Luke, first look at the pics of the tunnel and bulkhead, Can you identify this? Can you identify the sled as a 3rd Dimension? What are your thoughts? Now Ed why do you have to be like that? Sure looks like magnesium to me! But what were the other parts that came with the bulkhead and tunnel that were included? Rupp made magnesium slide rails for FA's correct? Im just asking a simple question and you just get an attitude right away. Its a cool sled and i asked. Big woop.[/quote Josh, . How is that attitude, and acting like what? I have no problems answering these questions. I've done it many times.I would in no way want anyone thinking I fabricated a part and called it original. So now I'm acting up? Lmao think before you type. And one more time does it look like a 3rd Dimension? I didn't ask you if it was magnesium. I will look in my files and see what I have for pictures to show what I fabricated. The aluminum slide rail suspension on the 3rd Dimension sleds where extruded aluminum not magnesium. If they were magnesium I would have used magnesium. I fabricated the fuel tank, pipes, handle bars, swing arm on the suspension, and duel throttle set up. I have the blue print drawn up by Tedd Pierce in October of 73 for the base pipe. He also talked me through the fabrication of the throttle set up. Every part on this sled that was not original to a 3rd Dimension was discussed with Tedd to make this sled correct as possible.
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Post by magnumed on Apr 16, 2015 12:37:42 GMT -6
Also the fiberglass. It's only been 5 years and I forgot the glass.
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Post by kronnikracing on Apr 16, 2015 12:40:31 GMT -6
Luke, first look at the pics of the tunnel and bulkhead, Can you identify this? Can you identify the sled as a 3rd Dimension? What are your thoughts? Now Ed why do you have to be like that? Sure looks like magnesium to me! But what were the other parts that came with the bulkhead and tunnel that were included? Rupp made magnesium slide rails for FA's correct? Im just asking a simple question and you just get an attitude right away. Its a cool sled and i asked. Big woop. Ed the attitude thing is pretty simple to see, nope i cant identify what that is. I would guess its a 3d since it is made of magnesium and is obviously rupp. Do i know that? no. I asked you the question so why are you asking me a question? Thats what i meant by the attitude. You could have just said " sure look at this post that eddy posted a couple years back" boom i would have had most the info i was curious about. But no, like i said in a previous post, it will be taken the wrong way and you will try and put me down for asking you a question. I know, how dare me. Oh and by the way this is Luke not Josh.
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Post by magnumed on Apr 16, 2015 16:46:40 GMT -6
Im not discrediting your sled in the least, hell read the thread about your sled i did nothing but praise that thing. Im just wondering what you had to piece together thru photos to complete the sled. Rupp had magnesium slide rails, they had the magnesium chain cases and covers and im pretty sure they had suspension parts that were magnesium also. Are all of the 3d parts one off pieces or did they pull SOME parts from the shelf to use for the builds? This is what im getting at ed, not ripping on you. Open mouth and insert chill pill man. Preferalby wash down with a Busch Light I have to take a chill pill because I ask a question and your thoughts. Lol. Sorry I have questions along with yours. And never said you discredited my sled. I had a reason for the question, now I have concerns of why you ask? I gave a list of items I built or fabricated to make the sled come together. I always have been in the open with this. Sorry for the way I asked the question I didn't word it to your approval. Didn't mean to offend you. Next time I'll be a little more gentle in the wording of my questions towards you, or can I even ask?
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Post by racingelvis on Apr 16, 2015 17:42:50 GMT -6
this crap takes a disgusting wrong turn every time. ed's sled is not the one in question if its real or not its mine and i accept that fact, and there is a huge ? mark with it. i didn't create this sled i didnt build this sled, i bought it. i did restore it though with the parts i got with the sled. any one could have bought it, it was on e-bay for awhile. i believe every word ted told me, all i am saying is this sled is and was built over 40 years ago, so it could be possible ted forgot some stuff also. i am not saying he did, i am just saying. on the other side of the fence there are stories of the sled what it was, by the guy who owned it,by whats wrote on the back of pictures i got with the sled and by a man who came on here out of his love for the sled, he raced it and would share some of his thoughts about it, is it all just a bunch of crap?? the writing, the stories, or is there truth there. i cant answer that. ted said he recognizes actual true 3d parts but cant identify the sled and if thats even a sled he built. i accept that. so as it stands in some eyes, my sled is a heavily modified 1973 magnum with some original 3d parts. unless the guy who built the 3d's could for sure say it was or if some proof comes along the way in the form of pictures proving it, it is what it is to some, and different to others and some will just simply not even care.
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Post by Ruppsforever on Apr 16, 2015 19:18:57 GMT -6
I don't really care what you all think about this whole pissing match. But I'm going to put my 3D hood and panels through a wood chipper. F**K the 3D. And F**K you Ed.
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Post by bankRUPPt on Apr 16, 2015 20:07:59 GMT -6
We're done here...
Part of collecting snowmobiles for some of us is researching and preserving history. Look at it how you want. If you don't feel that it's important to you whether a historically significant sled be properly verified or not, then run along. If you do, then lets keep the comments focused on that.
Any post that's repetitive or tells anyone to fuk off again will of course be deleted. If for no other reason than because I can!
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Post by Ruppsforever on Apr 16, 2015 20:37:37 GMT -6
Eddie, my post had nothing to do with the 3D or anything about it. Your dad has slammed me under the bus for no reason a number of times now. I'm sick of it and will not take anymore of it. You can delete this post if you want or all of them. I really don't care. It is not cool at all why my name seems to be brought up all the time when things get out of hand. I am not liking it. How about a Rupp 3-D crushing party. I will put the whole thing on. I'll rent the wood chipper and car crusher. What is left of them will give us a toasty fire to keep warm.
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Post by magnumed on Apr 17, 2015 5:38:44 GMT -6
Luke, first look at the pics of the tunnel and bulkhead, Can you identify this? Can you identify the sled as a 3rd Dimension? What are your thoughts? Again, this is what made the Kronstadts blow up. You boys are out of control. Plus I accidentally called Luke josh, I apologized sorry your brothers I made a mistake. This is an adult site grow up. It's obvious you both have been waiting for an ambush. Lol well there you go you have it now run along and kick around or your destroy all your Rupp stuff I don't care. Bill, disgusting turn? Only because I'm questioning the authenticity of something you have. I'm sure Tedd has forgot more than the both of us know about 3D's. He is still the expert not you not any joe blow that walked by the 3d's at a race once. So now after all this you admit it's a 73 mod sled? Or did I misinterpret your comment? It's only important to those that think it's important to preserve correct history. Do you fall into the I don't care group? If not where do you put yourself?
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Post by krazy on Apr 17, 2015 5:45:01 GMT -6
This stuff is what I was trying to make a point about verifying a sled with no documentation. What criteria do you use? Ed started with tunnel,bulkhead and hoop. To my knowledge the rest of the sled is either Rupp parts just like the 3D used or fabricated parts just like the 3D used. If there are other original 3D parts on the sled I am not aware of it. I think Ed did an awesome job of restoring this sled as correct as could be. Then I started with an original but very beat up 800 Magnum, This can be verified as several rupp collectors were present when I found it at the A1 show. I restored it using all NOS or repop parts to replace what was missing or broke however I replaced the tunnel/bulkhead with one out of a 440WT wich we all agreed is the same tunnel/bulkhead used on the 800. Ed can call his real and everyone tells me I have to call mine a clone. Is it just me or does that seem strange? For me it is this kind of stuff that has taken the fun out of collecting/restoring vintage sleds. I only have a couple more then i'm pulling the plug and wouldn't you know it one of them will be a 3D. I'm looking forward to it, I think? Joe
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Post by daren007 on Apr 17, 2015 5:56:40 GMT -6
It would be nice if you people were this passionate about something that really mattered. dc
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Post by racingelvis on Apr 17, 2015 6:20:05 GMT -6
Ed asked:,...So now after all this you admit it's a 73 mod sled? Or did I misinterpret your comment? ;
in my post i said:,.....so as it stands in some eyes, my sled is a heavily modified 1973 magnum with some original 3d parts.
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Post by kronnikracing on Apr 17, 2015 6:21:55 GMT -6
Luke, first look at the pics of the tunnel and bulkhead, Can you identify this? Can you identify the sled as a 3rd Dimension? What are your thoughts? Again, this is what made the Kronstadts blow up. You boys are out of control. Plus I accidentally called Luke josh, I apologized sorry your brothers I made a mistake. This is an adult site grow up. It's obvious you both have been waiting for an ambush. Lol well there you go you have it now run along and kick around or your destroy all your Rupp stuff I don't care. Bill, disgusting turn? Only because I'm questioning the authenticity of something you have. I'm sure Tedd has forgot more than the both of us know about 3D's. He is still the expert not you not any joe blow that walked by the 3d's at a race once. So now after all this you admit it's a 73 mod sled? Or did I misinterpret your comment? It's only important to those that think it's important to preserve correct history. Do you fall into the I don't care group? If not where do you put yourself? Wow ed. Its not ok for me to say you have an attitude on here (which is very evident) yet now you can call me out of control? Every single person on here that knows me would probably disagree with you. But im sure your right. An ambush? huh i asked a very simple question, what parts came with your tunnel and bulkhead? And you turn it into something it is not, supposedly an ambush, yeah sure. But i totally agree with what Joe said, essentially you are saying that your sled is THE REAL DEAL, but anyone else who has something thats not 100% original in its entirety is only a clone. However you built yours from pictures. In my opinion there are two main parts to a 3d that need to be there in order to be more of a resto than a clone and thats the magnesium bulkhead and tunnel and the pipes. Those are the two things that i think cant be replaced on an actual 3d. This topic is out of control, that is for sure. It always gets blown up on here. Like a bunch of whiney babys.
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Post by magnumed on Apr 17, 2015 8:03:30 GMT -6
Joe your lack of knowing what the sled came with and what is original to the 3rd dimension is understandable. I never had a conversation with you outlining the sled and items it came with. You had no knowledge of the sled being for sale so you may not have been as concerned as you are now. I was offered the sled and parts, more than a tunnel, bulkhead and hoop and I purchased it. We were up front with the restoration and parts we had to fabricate. This was done in 2010 before Waconia. The question of documentation is simple be honest with what you have, you done that with the 800. Not everyone is being honest. Yes Darren it is important to me and others as well that we don't just throw a sled into a group that is no larger than 4 total and claim it to be real. I am passionate and it does matter. We not talking about a 73 nitro being turned into a magnum with a hood and motor swap! Wait can we do that and call it a magnum?
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Post by pier66 on Apr 17, 2015 9:20:53 GMT -6
The truth is none of you have a complete original! Stop acting like what you have is so damn special. Magnesium this original that, at the end of the day it's not original if it's not 100% complete from the factory. Oh and the fact that Ted forget more than any of you will ever know about it is your sign right there that shit changed! Ted himself can't remember all of it. I will end with this, anyone of us can build a 3d tomorrow and be just as proud as the chest bangers from across the lake! I will eventually build a 650 3d and mine will have a 5 dollar red gas can on it for a fuel cell so I can call it original......
Enjoy rupps for what they are not what you hope you might have.
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Post by kronnikracing on Apr 17, 2015 9:42:23 GMT -6
Amen Brother!
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Post by bankRUPPt on Apr 17, 2015 10:45:29 GMT -6
See, some of you don't get it. That's fine, the hobby is different things to different people.
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Post by snosnake on Apr 17, 2015 11:06:54 GMT -6
"I will end with this, anyone of us can build a 3d tomorrow and be just as proud as the chest bangers from across the lake!"
I hate to say this but that is a pile of Bull Shit.
Lee if you think it is sooo easy to build a clone 3D Build one and bring it to Princeton this summer and I don't mean have Bill build you one either.
I sure get a kick out of this. There is soooo many guy's responding to this topic and they ain't got a fucking clue.
Also will somebody swat that damn fly that buzzing around in here.
Lee no hard feelings and I still want to meet up with you at St. Germain.
The azzhole has given his 2 cent's worth and now I am going to enjoy the rest of my Vacation.
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Post by magnumed on Apr 17, 2015 14:38:40 GMT -6
Amen Rick.......enjoy your vacation.
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