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Post by Ruppsforever on Apr 17, 2015 16:09:39 GMT -6
Waiting for an ambush ?? I haven't talked to Luke in a week !! OK then Bill. Does that make you feel good inside ?? I'll just start calling you Bill from now on. You call me Luke I call you Bill. The grass is green the sky is blue and you are an idiot. Also I could care less about the 3-D's I was just doing some reading on here and seen you started calling me Luke again !! Have a nice day Bill.
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Post by krazy on Apr 17, 2015 18:10:04 GMT -6
Hard for me to respond, i'm out of town using someones else's computer. But I have to add.....Ed, how soon we forget. You should know I was one of the first people to be at Greg's and see what he found when he found the chassis. I was also at Greg's when you picked up the chassis along with the rest of the part's he had collected for it. He never mentioned to me picking up anything but the tunnel,bulkhead and hoop when he originally found them. Now i'm not saying there's no way I could be wrong, after al i'm only human. I'm just stating what I remember after all I was there. Joe
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Post by magnumed on Apr 17, 2015 18:30:06 GMT -6
Waiting for an ambush ?? I haven't talked to Luke in a week !! OK then Bill. Does that make you feel good inside ?? I'll just start calling you Bill from now on. You call me Luke I call you Bill. The grass is green the sky is blue and you are an idiot. Also I could care less about the 3-D's I was just doing some reading on here and seen you started calling me Luke again !! Have a nice day Bill. Idiot, Bill, Wow name calling when the heat is on. Well I usually stay calm and I will stay calm what else can I do when I mix up two key board queens? What the hell are you two smoking Cheech and chong? Lol. Sorry I can't resist you have made total asses of both of you.
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Post by magnumed on Apr 17, 2015 18:43:08 GMT -6
Hard for me to respond, i'm out of town using someones else's computer. But I have to add.....Ed, how soon we forget. You should know I was one of the first people to be at Greg's and see what he found when he found the chassis. I was also at Greg's when you picked up the chassis along with the rest of the part's he had collected for it. He never mentioned to me picking up anything but the tunnel,bulkhead and hoop when he originally found them. Now i'm not saying there's no way I could be wrong, after al i'm only human. I'm just stating what I remember after all I was there. Joe Joe, how soon you forget Ed was with Greg when he bought it. More stories about how what and where. Oh Greg never gave you a parts list? Or never told you exactly what he and Ed seen that day, oh and Greg didn't ask you to buy it either. More holes in the story.
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Post by Ruppsforever on Apr 17, 2015 18:57:06 GMT -6
So tell me what it is that always makes you want to mention my name ?? Why am I the one you choose to hate. You dragged me into your own mess. I wasn't looking for trouble. You stirred the pot. I don't think I have made an azz at all of myself according to all the PM's I received. LOL !! Are you going to Ruppfest ??
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Post by magnesium on Apr 17, 2015 19:24:52 GMT -6
Who saw fit to preserve Rupp's SnoPro legacy? Mickey Rupp? Joe Hrudka? Gene Bloom? Ted Pierce? All that was left was bits and pieces and pictures. Broken dreams. Joe Hrudka had a collectors mentality and put away some crated sleds. Why not the 3D's?When I went through the pictures I took at Peterborough it came back to me. The Allouette twin tracker was last off the starting line but started picking off sleds once Villeneuve got going.I have a picture of Villeneuve passing Bloom,maybe second to last at the time. There's a lot of pictures of the Alouette in these pictures I found, few of the 3D. I'm a Rupp guy from day 1. I was let down and it was a long drive home. Forty-some years later an Alouette-badged Rupp beat a 3D at the Rupp build-off. Full circle,still no respect for the Rupp SnoPro effort.
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Post by bankRUPPt on Apr 17, 2015 19:36:37 GMT -6
Seriously, gone too far. Rick and I have never deleted or locked topics and I shouldnt have to start now, but this is it. Name calling and arguing the same dumb shit over and over. It's time to move on. Contribution to the topic or stfu.
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Post by 400nitro on Apr 17, 2015 19:59:17 GMT -6
was mickey still there when the 3d,s were built and raced? anything built after the day he left isn't really a rupp anyway. if you put whats left of the original hood and lowers on the magnesium tunnel and bulkhead you might have something .
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Post by magnesium on Apr 17, 2015 20:27:12 GMT -6
According to Rupphistory.com Mick sold controlling interest to Hrudka but still ran Rupp. The Villeneuve boys put their creation away because they could. Rupp could have but didn't. Why not?
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Post by racingelvis on Apr 17, 2015 20:37:56 GMT -6
your correct mark, micky did run it for awhile but mick told me it was so horrible the way it was being run above him he couldn't stand it and walked away. i think by the time the 3d's where put into action, i think mick was long gone. mick told me he had nothing to do with the 3d's.
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Post by magnesium on Apr 17, 2015 20:58:22 GMT -6
Mickey let the Super SnoSport go. If ever there was a Rupp keeper,that was it. For whatever excuse that's never been offered, Rupp Industries didn't preserve a 74 3D.
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Post by bankRUPPt on Apr 17, 2015 21:38:49 GMT -6
Very few 74 sno pros of any brand were left intact to preserve.
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Post by magnesium on Apr 17, 2015 22:36:12 GMT -6
Very few 74 sno pros of any brand were left intact to preserve. The last SnoPro race of 74, who was there? Those were the survivors. Cats and Polaris, there must be some of those, lots of clones. Yellow never showed up,oops. Yamaha SRX's were state of the art but where are they?
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Post by krazy on Apr 18, 2015 5:14:14 GMT -6
Ed, you make it sound like i'm making up stories when i'm only stating what I was told and saw with my own eyes. When Greg showed us what he found I saw a tunnel,bulkhead and hoop that's it. He never mentioned any other 3D specific parts or showed me any other 3D specific parts at that time. You mentioned here you fabricated the pipes,handlebars and dual throttle set up. I'm pretty sure you told me you fabed the tanks also. I know where most of the suspension parts came from. Could you please enlighten me as well as the rest of us would like to know what other 3D specific parts you picked up from Greg. I'm not trying to pick a fight here just trying to get the facts out in the open.
Eddie, I might pick a fight here. Don't you dare tell me you and Rick would never delete a post here. There's a reason i'm no longer a regular contributor here. I got sick and tired of being deleted when I never swore at or bashed anyone. Was only trying to get the facts and truth to come out same as i'm doing now. Joe
Go ahead and delete if you have to, wouldn't be the first time.
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Post by krazy on Apr 18, 2015 5:57:23 GMT -6
Eddie, yes Joe had post in the past that got deleted so fast I didn't have time to read some of them. He would write it come downstairs and by the time I went right up to read the post it was gone. I may be old but I'm not that slow. Glenda
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Post by magnumed on Apr 18, 2015 7:48:30 GMT -6
Ok Bill, joe said he wants the facts out, post away! Show us your restoration and 3D parts and pictures. Your turn!
Joe, I understand you and others being loyal to Bill because you buy parts from him, he paints for you etc. he is in business to do that. As a business man you would think he would be a little more forthcoming on information and pictures. You and others ask questions now but when I had it at Ruppfest you were there, you got the answers to the questions you seen the sled, you seen numerous posts. Now you want to be repetitive? I think you told me, you might have, I guess is never in any of my threads. Read them your asking and or commenting on things that are posted in this thread. Read it. Why aren't you asking Bill? It's obvious. I will be the bad guy and that's fine but having this sled and knowing all the important facts and information he received he skirts around stories picks and chooses what we wants to tell. The truth and facts I've stated. It's bills time to step up and show pictures of the restoration. It surely won't take away from the fact it has history and 3d parts. He often does very nice builds and restorations I've seen them. As he posts this information let's see what questions you have then. Trust me joe it won't hurt him a bit. He may even gain a little respect from it.
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Post by mcruppin on Apr 18, 2015 7:56:33 GMT -6
Although the post started "original 3-D glass", we all know that the meat and potatoes of it's content, was history. A cool find brought back to life by Bill. It rekindled my interest so I went back to Ed/Eddies post from 2010. More like a documentary! From A-Z, you can learn exactly what was found, what was not, what had to be fabricated. Nobody embellished facts or made up stories. I was more surprised at their pursuit of facts/history and sharing with all of us. Why the same dumb questions are being asked is beyond me. Grab a cup of coffee, and read the post. I like history,I like true and accurate answers, why would you condemn someone for that. As an outsider looking in, some facts in this post are just total B.S. I understand two sleds are involved, but facts surrounding one are somewhat fuzzy. A sled is purchased from E-Bay, a past owner check reveals a man named Chuck Brightly @ one time owned or raced it. After a long extensive interview with a bunch of notes taken, we still have no idea who/what he was to Rupp, or who he even is. Next enters his partner/sidekick, Lee. Lee does not know the difference between an Alouette twin track and a Raider (that never came in red). Makes you think. Is he the guy I would go all in on? Really made no contribution as to Bill's sleds history. The Tunnel/bulkhead is a modified 73 Magnum, why? "it was a prototype 650". The 650 was not used after the 74 Ironwood race, It was a magnesium bulk head like the rest, instead dismantled and parts were used for the other three sleds as needed. Essentially picked apart! Were some parts somehow aquired from Rupp, sounds that way. Did they make it onto Bill's sled? Yup. Very cool! Now by no means am I an authority, just relaying what I have read, and what has been posted. Obviously everyone has a different opinion, but based on facts, It does not matter who your better friends with. or who has helped you more in the past, Ed's sled seems the most complete and accurate 3-D known. The heart of the sled, bulkhead/tunnel. handlebar hoop etc, etc. have been verified by the builder. Both men have passionately devoted a ton of time into preserving/restoring a sled that was hand made in the back corner of a shop by a select few guys. conformation from them means a lot in my book. Don't shoot me for interpreting what I have read, but some things are just plain obvious.
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Post by racingelvis on Apr 18, 2015 8:36:48 GMT -6
ED, i have said this a bunch of times, your sled is not the sled in question, mine is. i know you know, we all know your sled is the real 3d. along the lines of joe's first post, take a sled and put a/m parts, nos parts on it and its now restored, it sure isn't stock any more, or its a clone. its a fine line to the definition to a sled, car, truck tractor or what ever. i have also said, i didn't create this sled, i didn't design this sled, i just simply bought it and restored it. i am personally sorry that this thread has turned into a pissing match. it makes me sick. i am a stand up guy, been in business 25 years now, and if i ever did any wrong unintentionally i have always tried to make it right. the last thing i want to see is this kind of trouble. the stories that come with this sled of mine have not been fabricated in any way shape or form by me and i don't believe chuck, lee, rudy, or mike fabricated any stories either. mike was friends with chuck and mike told me the same stories as lee. mike does not know lee and vise versa. i ask the question, if my sled is not the 650, then what is it. i will post pics, i don't have allot of pics, i can take as many as you want, now its restored, when i got this sled and restored it, it was way before camera phones and the pics i did take of it was with a regular camera, not even a digital, so i will take some pics of the pics and post, and dont ride my azz about it either, i am extremely busy in my shop doing a resto right now and i will do it when i get the time but i will try to soon. i just wasn't a shutter bug back then, (lol). i am trying more now than ever to be. i did it on my 76 magnum sno-pro, now that sled i have a bunch of pics restoring it. heck i dont even have pics of my builds through the 15 years of racing i have been doing.
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Post by bankRUPPt on Apr 18, 2015 8:45:08 GMT -6
Go ahead and delete if you have to, wouldn't be the first time. Pretty sure it would be. Only thread I ever deleted i ended up regretting and it wasnt yours. No fight, I can let stuff go it doesn't bother me. I'm out riding today, boys. Behave, or don't!
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Post by magnesium on Apr 18, 2015 9:10:57 GMT -6
Ed,if you're referring to the "hoarder" thread, don't regret deleting it. Couldn't bury that stinker deep enough.
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