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Post by krazy on Apr 21, 2015 9:51:49 GMT -6
I did locate a sled just like was rumored that the 650RS from the 3D was to be transplanted into. Talked to the owner about it and he does not know where the engine came from. Was in the sled when he got it. But he did say if there was any way to positively ID the motor as the original 3D motor he would gladly let it go as he has another 650RS to replace it. But you know about record keeping at Rupp, not much chance of that happening. Joe
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Post by bankRUPPt on Apr 21, 2015 10:03:22 GMT -6
Does it have aluminum pipes that are supposed to have been with it?
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Post by rupparooney on Apr 21, 2015 10:35:31 GMT -6
/quote]I agree, just don't misrepresent it when your done! if your referring to me, that was not my intention, when the glass was found, when my sled came up for sale, the fact is there was no info on the 3d, or how they where built, i never even knew they had off set front ends, no one did. i represented my sled by what the owner had told me when he had nothing to gain by it and also what was wrote on the back of pictures. then mike, then rudy, then lee, it all added up. all the same stories. you couldn't even think about making this stuff up. there is some history about this sled, and the 3d parts, i will keep digging. [/quote] Bill, It's nice to see you RACE THAT 3D.....
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Post by snosnake on Apr 21, 2015 12:55:07 GMT -6
Here are a few pics of my 650 Blue Max with wife on board and father in background in #3. Chuck is pic #4. Race pics are in another album to be found and unpacked another day. I have no interest in 3D's because they weren't state of the art back then nor are they now. Just a passing phase in sled development history. As for your accusation of slamming this site, it appears to be already closed minded to new people and additional information. And don't misquote anymore phone conversations with me just because the facts aren't already what you want them to be. View AttachmentView AttachmentView AttachmentView Attachment. Lee when I talk to you on the phone you said Chuck swap the sleds out and then if you remember correctly. I asked you how did Chuck know it was a 3-D sweat. You said you didn't know. By the way I do hate to tell you this but that 72 speedway 650 is not a BlueMAX it is just a 72 650 speedway the BlueMAX didn't come out until 73. The reason I mention about you building a third dimension was not because you like one or not ibut because you're acting like there's nothing to building one. So I just thinking maybe would prove that you could build one better than the two across the lake. You sure do a lot of posting but not much proving.
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Post by krazy on Apr 21, 2015 13:28:45 GMT -6
I never asked him about the pipes. He got the sled with the motor already in it so I doubt it. I know there is no way they would ever fit that chassis unless there was a lot of cutting and modding done to them as it was a front mount chassis. Sure would be sweet though if we(the Rupp world) could recover the original motor. Joe
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Post by magnumed on Apr 21, 2015 18:08:07 GMT -6
Hopefully this time in closing it is in closing with me. If I see I need to protect my integrity or comment On my sled or facts I will. Continue on with this thread with bills pictures and all the good things with the sled. Others that want to submit B.S. Save it. You've done enough. Read what Bill posted Tedd told him, I wasn't wrong I don't lie. Make the remainder of what is posted positive. Things build on me I don't like it I say so. Unlike others that just set back and let it go. I have a good reason to be this way, a lot of work, a lot of dedication and a lot of research. I post what I know I tell what I know that's why when I hear bullshit I call bullshit. If I hurt your feelings sorry get over it.
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Post by snosnake on Apr 21, 2015 20:59:29 GMT -6
Lee that is an early 73 brochuer.
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Post by krazy on Apr 21, 2015 21:01:15 GMT -6
I don't know much about these sleds myself but I think they are ugly and would rather have a 76 Nitro. If Bills is not one of the 4 or 5 third dimensions then it might be a 1 of 1 . Wouldn't this be even more rare and collectable? Just a womans thought. GLENDA
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Post by snosnake on Apr 21, 2015 21:04:19 GMT -6
/quote]I agree, just don't misrepresent it when your done! if your referring to me, that was not my intention, when the glass was found, when my sled came up for sale, the fact is there was no info on the 3d, or how they where built, i never even knew they had off set front ends, no one did. i represented my sled by what the owner had told me when he had nothing to gain by it and also what was wrote on the back of pictures. then mike, then rudy, then lee, it all added up. all the same stories. you couldn't even think about making this stuff up. there is some history about this sled, and the 3d parts, i will keep digging. Bill, It's nice to see you RACE THAT 3D..... [/quote] Steve, Bill's race sleds are not 3D's.. He did race a widend out 73 Magnum a while back but what he races right now are not 3D's.
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Post by rupparooney on Apr 21, 2015 21:50:06 GMT -6
if your referring to me, that was not my intention, when the glass was found, when my sled came up for sale, the fact is there was no info on the 3d, or how they where built, i never even knew they had off set front ends, no one did. i represented my sled by what the owner had told me when he had nothing to gain by it and also what was wrote on the back of pictures. then mike, then rudy, then lee, it all added up. all the same stories. you couldn't even think about making this stuff up. there is some history about this sled, and the 3d parts, i will keep digging. Bill, It's nice to see you RACE THAT 3D..... Steve, Bill's race sleds are not 3D's.. He did race a widend out 73 Magnum a while back but what he races right now are not 3D's.[/quote Sorry Rick, I thought his sled was a 3D type racer.
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Post by racingelvis on Apr 21, 2015 22:03:10 GMT -6
thanks rooney,.... rick, that's how it is in today's super mod racing. they are 3d's, there my 3d's, there 3d's on steroids!!! there no different than the guys building artic cat z's, ski-doo blizzard's, polaris starfires, etc. etc. etc.. in today's world of super mod racing, it's what we can do to the sleds. one thing though that i find funny, in 1974 sno-pro they could run a off set front end. in today's modern-vintage world of racing i can pretty much build any thing under the sun and do it to my sleds but the rule states no off set front ends allowed. lol, go figure
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Post by snosnake on Apr 21, 2015 22:57:40 GMT -6
thanks rooney,.... rick, that's how it is in today's super mod racing. they are 3d's, there my 3d's, there 3d's on steroids!!! there no different than the guys building artic cat z's, ski-doo blizzard's, polaris starfires, etc. etc. etc.. in today's world of super mod racing, it's what we can do to the sleds. one thing though that i find funny, in 1974 sno-pro they could run a off set front end. in today's modern-vintage world of racing i can pretty much build any thing under the sun and do it to my sleds but the rule states no off set front ends allowed. lol, go figure Bill they are not 3-D's and you have a lot of people confuse thinking they are. If I want to build a 3-D would you send me the fiberglass from your Race sleds or would you send me the hood for the third dimension. Could you tell me what other Midmount sleds converted to a front mount sled and still called the same thing. Do you honestly see nothing wrong with doing this???
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Post by racingelvis on Apr 21, 2015 23:24:30 GMT -6
qoute: Could you tell me what other Midmount sleds converted to a front mount sled and still called the same thing. Do you honestly see nothing wrong with doing this???,......
rupp,....magnum ski-doo,....blizzard other than that i cant think of any. you know i heard this story before. if you dont like me racing what i race and what i represent for rupp on the track then dont follow it, and dont concern your self with it.
in no way shape or form am i trying to miss lead any one with my race sleds. the rules allow us to do certain things so i moved my motor forward so i could be more competitive on the track, front mounts against front mounts. so no, i dont see anything wrong with what i am doing to "MY" race sleds.
the fiber glass on my front mount 3d's is the mid mount fiber glass, it is not my front mount 3d fiber glass i made years ago.
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Post by magnumed on Apr 22, 2015 5:42:02 GMT -6
I don't know much about these sleds myself but I think they are ugly and would rather have a 76 Nitro. If Bills is not one of the 4 or 5 third dimensions then it might be a 1 of 1 . Wouldn't this be even more rare and collectable? Just a womans thought. GLENDA Glenda, they built 4 Third Dimensions. I would say bills is 1 of 1. If factory very rare, if built by a private individual very cool sled. I would trade a speedway of for a magnum but not a 76 nitro. Lol
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Post by snosnake on Apr 22, 2015 8:56:18 GMT -6
qoute: Could you tell me what other Midmount sleds converted to a front mount sled and still called the same thing. Do you honestly see nothing wrong with doing this???,...... rupp,....magnum ski-doo,....blizzard other than that i cant think of any. you know i heard this story before. if you dont like me racing what i race and what i represent for rupp on the track then dont follow it, and dont concern your self with it. in no way shape or form am i trying to miss lead any one with my race sleds. the rules allow us to do certain things so i moved my motor forward so i could be more competitive on the track, front mounts against front mounts. so no, i dont see anything wrong with what i am doing to "MY" race sleds. the fiber glass on my front mount 3d's is the mid mount fiber glass, it is not my front mount 3d fiber glass i made years ago. Bill I not going to get into an argument about this. The point is when Steve said at least you race your 3D sleds. Your 3D sleds are a custom built race sled not a restored original 3D. Now if you had an restored original 3d would you race it? Just like I am sure Steve is going to take his little Rupp scooter and flat track that.
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Post by racingelvis on Apr 22, 2015 9:32:17 GMT -6
i am not wanting an argument rick. like you said, they are custom built race sleds and they are. i run the original style mid mount 3d glass on them because i want that look. rick if you ever come to a race and want to take one of the sleds for a burn in the pits your more than welcome to, you would have fun on it, i'm sure.
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Post by rupparooney on Apr 22, 2015 9:59:28 GMT -6
qoute: Could you tell me what other Midmount sleds converted to a front mount sled and still called the same thing. Do you honestly see nothing wrong with doing this???,...... rupp,....magnum ski-doo,....blizzard other than that i cant think of any. you know i heard this story before. if you dont like me racing what i race and what i represent for rupp on the track then dont follow it, and dont concern your self with it. in no way shape or form am i trying to miss lead any one with my race sleds. the rules allow us to do certain things so i moved my motor forward so i could be more competitive on the track, front mounts against front mounts. so no, i dont see anything wrong with what i am doing to "MY" race sleds. the fiber glass on my front mount 3d's is the mid mount fiber glass, it is not my front mount 3d fiber glass i made years ago. Bill I not going to get into an argument about this. The point is when Steve said at least you race your 3D sleds. Your 3D sleds are a custom built race sled not a restored original 3D. Now if you had an restored original 3d would you race it? Just like I am sure Steve is going to take his little Rupp scooter and flat track that. GEEEEZ, I should have said 3D look alike, it's just nice to see the person out racing with a Rupp Style sled, kinda like what they did back in the day.... Rick, If I did take my little Rupp Scooter on the flat track, I would probrably end up FLAT ON THE TRACK..... Sure would be nice to see this 3D thing figured out some day..........I think everyone just needs to get together and have a BIG BRUSKI (BEER)
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Post by snosnake on Apr 22, 2015 12:56:17 GMT -6
Steve maybe I misunderstood what you were getting at and if that is the case I apologize. I really do think it was a slam on Ed... But hey I have been wrong before.
Ain't we all just one big happy bunch.
I will say this when it come's down to any Rupp event most of us seem to be able to put our differentes aside.
Well it looks like another exciting thread is coming to and end.
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Post by magnumed on Apr 22, 2015 16:13:14 GMT -6
Sure would be nice to see this 3D thing figured out some day. (Rooney)
Steve it is. (Magnumed)
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Post by rupparooney on Apr 22, 2015 22:03:48 GMT -6
Steve maybe I misunderstood what you were getting at and if that is the case I apologize. I really do think it was a slam on Ed... But hey I have been wrong before. Ain't we all just one big happy bunch.
I will say this when it come's down to any Rupp event most of us seem to be able to put our differentes aside.Well it looks like another exciting thread is coming to and end. No Rick it wasn't a slam on Ed, it's just nice to see any Rupps out there racing, especially the ones that look like the 3D's, I think there cool looking, I don't care who's driving them.
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